Torture

Andrew Sullivan has been posting quite eloquently about torture lately, very strongly making the case that it is absolutely and utterly abhorrent under any circumstances.

When you hear a banal phrase like "stress position", and hear people dismiss it, remember that everything is in the doing. And when human beings are given total control over others, they are capable of great evil. Sane and civilized societies do not give permission for such things. And they do not make excuses for them. And when they discover they have been done, they investigate and prosecute those who broke the law.

A couple more for good measure.

It's a shame about John McCain - his opposition to torture was one of his greatest virtues.